Which came first, Islam or Christianity?

How can anybody think that Islam is an older faith then Christianity? Simply historically speaking Islam did not appear on the scene until about 1400 years ago when Christ Himself appeared on the scene 2000 years ago.

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  1. pursuitoftruth

    What real difference does chronology make in the belief in God? If we are focused upon the goal of developing and maintaining a relationship with God, and sharing the good news of its influence on our lives with others, then the order in which any theological discourse came into being is irrelevant!
    the deepening void between humanity, seems to be based more on misunderstandings that should have been cleared away during the refrmation and rennesaince a long time ago.
    It’s true, in the middle of all of the information that is available to us, there is stil very little knowledge to be found.
    Anyone who worships and believes one way, can be dismissiveof another form, it does not make one any more relevant than the others.
    If God is truly only one, then I think that He can figure out if we are actually being obedient to His expectations.

    October 17, 2011
    1. hearthappy45

      I would agree that God is capable of figuring out whether or not we are being obedient to His commands or not.

      October 31, 2011
    2. bley

      his commands in the Bible or Koran? chronology does matter as it shows one is first another is a spin of or something

      October 24, 2013
  2. majnuun

    wow. where do i begin?

    first of all, there is NO text in bible that indicates ALL prophets after jesus are false. Otherwise, please provide your reference so we can analyze your claim.

    As for why Islam is the oldest religion (?) – this requires an understanding of the word “islam”, its roots, the idea of islam, and the acts of true prophets of God. I will explain this briefly here, but there are many good sites on the web that explain all this in great detail.

    The word ‘islam’ generally means submitting ones will (to the Will of God). This word comes from the root ‘salaam’, which means peace. One who follows this philosophy of submitting his/her will to God is therefore known as a Muslim (which is just a conjugation of the word Islam). As such, all prophets of God, from Adam to Muhammad, who submitted their own will to the Will of God (including Jesus) – were Muslim. Therefore, the religion of Adam and Eve was Islam, as Islam was also the religion of Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad, as well as all other true prophets of God – they were all Muslims, which simply means they submitted their will to the Will of God. Therefore, Islam is truly the oldest religion, because there is no disagreement amongst the major religious groups that all the major prophets did indeed submit their own will to the Will of God – thereby showing that they were practicing the true meaning of the word Islam, and therefore, they were, in fact, practicing Muslims!

    It is also interesting to point out that the Bible (old and new testaments), no prophet actually called themselves ‘christian’ or ‘jewish’ – ever. However, based on their own revelations, they all did profess to be the messengers of God and they all did profess that they had submitted their will to the Will of God, and therefore they all professed to living a life which literally defined the word Islam. In the Quran, the prophets all clearly professed to be Muslim, as this was the only possible translation of their submission to the Will of God.

    As for the bible and what is stated therein, it is best to provide references when speaking of anything. If someone claims that the Bible said one thing in one verse, it is very easy to find an opposite meaning in a different bible verse. I think biblical exegesis should not be the focus of this discussion. If anything, those topics require an entirely different discussion, forum, and even a website of their own. But, so many sites have been dedicated to both sides of the argument – no need to rebuild the wheel, re-hash the points of contention, etc. Its best to review both sides and try to understand each point of view, compassionately – and respect each other’s opinions. 

    Thank you.

    November 18, 2011
    1. hearthappy45

      I would agree that not all prophets who were to come after Jesus were false prophets, but I would be specific about how Muhammad was a false prophet.

      November 18, 2011
    2. hearthappy45

      Based on your definition of Islam I would agree with your statement that, “Therefore, the religion of Adam and Eve was Islam, as Islam was also the religion of Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus…they were all Muslims…” however I would be careful to exclude Muhammad specifically as a false prophet.

      November 18, 2011
    3. hearthappy45

      The fact that no prophet called themselves Christian or Jewish is meaningless.

      November 18, 2011
    4. hearthappy45

      I would disagree with your claim that there are contradictions in the Bible.

      November 18, 2011
    5. hearthappy45

      I would agree that we should respect each other’s opinions; however, we should also be willing to discuss the ideas that each other brings up in an open an honest way.

      November 18, 2011
    6. coconutcreampie

      It depends on what prophet you are talking about.

      Maybe none of the prophets called themselves Jewish(which might be an English word), but there is record of at least some of them(maybe the others are assumed to be) being direct descendants of one of Jacob’s twelve sons. Those twelve sons and their descendants make up the nation of Israel(so called because Jacob’s name was changed to Israel. They are also known as the Jews or Jewish people.) In the English translation of The Bible, the word “Jew” is used as early as the Book Of Esther, which is the story of the Jews being saved from genocide. (Side note – the Jewish holiday of Purim is the remembrance of that event.) So, having that information, there was as early as that a name in the current language that distinguished that group of people from other groups of people. So a Jewish prophet, may not have said in that language, “I am a Jewish prophet.”, but might have said in that language, " I’m a Jewish man, a prophet of God."

      So, if a prophet wasn’t a descendant of Jacob, noone including themselves would call them a Jewish prophet. And being called Christian didn’t start until the first century. So, no prophet before the middle of the first century would have been called a Christian prophet.

      November 30, 2011
    7. antho91

      When comes to Islam, too bad for its case, I have to admit that it was a religion copied from Judaism and Christianity. Now the question as to whether Islam and Christianity serves the same God, I would said no. Muhammad had invented a god that is totally different and only suits his teaching.

      Were there eyewitness to see what the angel had told to Muhammad? Couldn’t he just made up the story by his own??

      January 22, 2012
    8. bley

      I like to think of things in as simplest terms as possible and with analogies…..so here it goes, try to follow my thought….we have iphones and we have people who made cell phones after the iphone quite like the iphone, and we have people who have made cell phones that look exactly like iphones and try to sell them as “iphones”, but neither are the "real"origional iphone. we have steve jobs who created the original iphone and we have samsungs CEO who made phones like the iphone and we have some Chinese factory owner making knockoffs of the iphone. in this case is it easy to see people try to make things like the original to try and profit and make statements that they are better than the others/original and just people lying about being the original. now to religion….if I were to say I wanted to follow the true original religion I wold have to follow the earlier form, i.e.christianity since jesus came something like 600 years before mohommad. also it seems evident that the follower wold make statements claiming to the the best, the original, but unless otherwise closely looked at the you might be fooled. now I am a man of overall questioning of everything, of how things work and such, so if I were a man born into a muslim culture and I started to investigate at bare minimum the origionating dates of each religion I would have to choose Christianity, but your culture would also be the one telling you if you choose Christianity then you are to be killed…quite convienant to rfeally control people with religion don’t you think??? that’s one of the reasons I am a Christian.

      October 22, 2013
  3. dudeman88

    Using the definition of Islam, saying oh well Islam means fallow gods will doesnt justify that older. Its ignorance and just trying to prove falsely it is older. The actual discovery of Islam is younger than Christianity. I’m sorry but using the definition of the name someone gave it DOES NOT make it older.

    August 10, 2014
  4. hearthappy45

    I would agree with you, DJ, that Muhammad makes a perfect example of the type of false prophets that Jesus warned us not to follow.

    October 31, 2011
  5. hearthappy45

    Christian religion is not about believing things without evidence:

    Isaiah 43:24-26 You have not bought me sweet cane with money, or satisfied me with the fat of your sacrifices. But you have burdened me with your sins; you have wearied me with your iniquities. 25 "I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins. 26 Put me in remembrance; let us argue together; set forth your case, that you may be proved right.

    October 31, 2011